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Submitted by
neda on 04/08/2002
Participants:
Linda Vogler, Community Culinary School of Charlotte
Len Mitchell, Wallace Academy Community Kitchen
Robert Egger, DC Central Kitchen
Jane Tally, Kansas City Community Kitchen
Devra Edelman, Haight Ashbury Food Program
David Whiteley, Memphis Community Kitchen
Kim Prendergast, America’s Second Harvest
FROM LINDA, CCSC : welcome to everyone, I hope we can come up
Len just entered this room...
neda@dcck just entered this room...
RobertofDC just entered this room...
FROM LEN : Hi Linda, Thanks for your recent contributions to
the discussion board. What are your thoughts on fundraising ?
FROM LINDA, CCSC : with some sensitive and productive
language to approach funders and maybe come up with some creative
ways to approach people and who to approach for funding. I don't
know about the rest of you, but I am concerned about funding and was
before the attack on America. I have asked some other foks to join
us who have experience in fundraising and hope they can make it
staceyroen just entered this room...
FROM ROBERT of DC: Ditto Len, thanks Linda for getting this
subject out there
FROM ROBERT of DC: Who wants to start this party
FROM LINDA, CCSC : Hi, Len , One thing I've sorta thought of
is us as a group forming a stronger alliance with the Hospitality
industry, since they are seeing some negative in revenues as a
result of the attack.
FROM LINDA, CCSC :
FROM LEN : I think that we need to continue with our focus
and tone as social entrepreneurs rather than asking for handouts.
You know, empowerment instead of pity.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : I also would like for us to maybe come up
with some common language that will address the sensivitity of the
issue, but will also make funders aware that we will see more
homelessness and hunger now.
FROM LEN : Absolutely. I am working on the American Culinary
Federation (ACF) and the International Association of Culinary
Professionals (IACP) to engage them in the CK idea, especially in
schools and college campuses.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : I agree with Len, that now is the time for
us to be very aggressive with the for profit enterprises Devra@HAFP
just entered this room...
FROM LINDA, CCSC : I'm being joined by Beth from our partner,
Friendship Trays. Beth is the development director and has some
ideas on the language
FROM ROBERT of DC: I tell you what...the industry is taking a
pounding, with about 30-50% pay-offs predicted. The ranks of those
who will be out of work (temporarily, I hope)will include our grads,
but also many transitioning from welfare to work. I think that we
should approach this from a "keeping them up, not letting them fall"
angle first, then branch out to include partnerships with the
industry.
FROM LEN : What is very interesting is the marked increase in
charity and awareness of social issues. I wonder what sorts of
opportunities that have been there all along but are now going to be
receiving more and more attention. I mean, I am very glad that all
the CK's are in place to help people get on their feet.
Submitted by
neda on 04/08/2002
FROM LINDA, CCSC : what about a united slogan or empowerment
phrase from the kitchens that we can rally around
FROM LEN : Good point Robert, I think we need to re-focus a
bit and make sure that grads are not lost in the shuffle, while
continuing industry relationships. The climate has definitely
changed for awhile at least.
FROM ROBERT of DC: We're approaching the Hotel Association of
Washington with a partnership idea.As mnay of those laid-off will
get unemployment, we have to help those limited dollars go towards
rent, gas, etc, not food. We've proposed locating a hotel to act as
a site for displaced workers to eat, with DCCK preparing the meal.
The hook....we'll get grads who are laid-off and hotel workers that
have been paid-off to cook, so that theya re part of the
fight...kind of a cooking corp. kinda deal.
FROM ROBERT of DC: Oops, I meant laid-off hotel workers, not
paid off.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : Beth has been in contact with United Way
for language, she says that we all need "safety nets" we all need to
have a base, had the national groups not had these safety nets, they
would not have been available for the disaster. That we stress that
now more that ever we need strength on the local individual agency
level
FROM LEN : An empowerment phrase...interesting. I want to go
back to your point about language, too, Linda. What about Cooking
Corps ?
FROM LINDA, CCSC : I like that idea ,Robert, and you are
right in the thick of the disaster. We can all use this time to
strengthen public awareness of what we do
FROM DEVRA@HAFP:: Hi there - it's Devra from the Haight
Ashbury Food Program just joining in for a bit - one thing that I
have recently stressed in a report to a funder is that our
organization is poised to respond to the growing and changing needs
of our community and to assist in the healing process - that is one
of the strengths of CKs, that we are providing services that not
only assist with the short-term needs of our clients, but the
long-term needs as well.
FROM LEN : David, are you there ?
FROM LINDA, CCSC : I like cooking corps. We are trying to
make sure that the words we use reflect our concern about the
national disaster, but still make sure that people don't forget us
FROM LEN : Greetings Devra. And Neda, chime in anytime.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : Hi David, what do you think?
FROM ROBERT of DC: Can I suggest that we work this from three
angles. 1) Keeping grads and those transitioning from welfare to
work. Maybe we can come up with a "keeping them working till the
jobs come back" Then we push the safety net thing by locating places
that help those that are paid-off, like childcare centers or helping
to establish somethinmg near the local unemployment center, so we're
in the fight.
FROM DAVID: yes, this is my first chat room experience, so
I'm feeling my way into the conversation.
Submitted by
neda on 04/08/2002
FROM ROBERT of DC: I've gotta hit the "L" key and not the "P"
key when I write laid-off
FROM LEN : I like the idea of physical proximity to the sites
of need.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : I think we do need to stay aware as Robert
says of the issues that are always underlying our success like
childcare and nutiition
FROM LINDA, CCSC : robert, what was your third angle?
FROM NEDA@DCCK: hi guys... sorry stacey and I have been
silent, we are making sure that we get all these great ideas down
for the transcript. and yes, i think devra has a good point saying
that us CKs, we are ready to rock n' roll and respond to changing
needs..
FROM ROBERT of DC: I think that proximity to those effected
is key...if we just do what we've always done, we're gonna get hit.
If we open our doors to those that have been laid-off, while they
wait to return to work (which many hotel people will) then we can
get them inside our operations...then we win on numerous fronts. The
press will love it, the workers will feel involved and they'll see
us from the inside and know more about what we're doing, so when
they return to work, we'll have more friends on the inside.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : I like Devra's point about the changing
needs, Beth was just saying that counselors need counselors and
others have needs now that are new to all of us
FROM LEN : Opening doors to the changing needs of our
community
FROM LINDA, CCSC : congradulations on hitting the right key,
Robert, what about looking to the airline folks if we are going to
look to laid-off people
FROM LINDA, CCSC : can we hear from some of you just joining
on ideas for funding and substaining in these rough times?
FROM DAVID: Since we're still in the visioning stage in
Memphis and haven't start yet, I'm wondering if I can even get
funding to begin. The general feel in the business community is
pretty gloomy right now and purse strings seem tight. Are you
experiencing the same?
FROM LINDA, CCSC : we were feeling the strain before the
attack
FROM ROBERT of DC: I think that the hospitality people are
hardest hit, as many will have only limited benfits from
unemployment. By the way, if we serve these men and women, then we
can access Red Cross, United Way funds, which is the point (or one
of the points) of this chat.
FROM ROBERT of DC: I think that the hospitality people are
hardest hit, as many will have only limited benfits from
unemployment. By the way, if we serve these men and women, then we
can access Red Cross, United Way funds, which is the point (or one
of the points) of this chat.
FROM LEN : If we have a range of skills in our kitchens, then
we also have an abundant depth of skills to train with. So what we
have is 30-50% of the hospitality work force unemployed, along with
many new needs for prepared food. KimPrendergast just entered this
room...
FROM ROBERT of DC: avid...call my friend Bryan Eagle @ (901)
274-8545. He is at the Business Incubator and will help.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : Are you talking about actuall going into
the hotels to train, I've had that though before
FROM ROBERT of DC: Len hits another cool angle...getting the
skills of those temporarily out of work to help us build capacity.
Nothing gets people involved like a meaningful volunteer experience,
which is what this could be. How about we name thsi, the kitchen
Corp.
Submitted by
neda on 04/08/2002
FROM DAVID: Thanks I'll call him
FROM LEN : I love it ...The Kitchen Corp. Is Corp reflective
of the Cilvilian Conservation Corps? It works for me.
FROM ROBERT of DC: I guess that's the angle I'm after. It
implies work, effort, direction and purpose. Thta's the angle we'll
need to get out front of this funding curve and set the stage for
new friends like David.
FROM LEN : Linda, I think these people would not be in the
Hotel, they would be out of work, collecting unemploymeny but still
wanting to use their skills, helping others in the same boat.
FROM ROBERT of DC: hta's it, Len...helping others, even when
you’re out of work. That’s what we offer…ANYONE can help. By the
way, we could also offer food/dinner to go those who volunteer, so
they'd be helping themsleves also.
FROM LEN : That's right. Not wanting to feel like they were
out of work, but actually being part of a solution in this tough
time, and maybe receiving a meal to take home in the process.
FROM DEVRA@HAFP:: I like the idea of assiting with the needs
of laid-off workers - this can use our current organizational
structures to expand to a new population of clients in need. For
instance, one way that we can do this in SF iis through building on
some partnerships that are already in place, such as doing outreach
at the local One Stop Centers (i.e. EDD / unemployment offices) -
informing laiid-off workers about our food service and offering to
assist them with planning for the future and getting other resources
available throughout the City. This not only assists laid-off
workers with their immediate needs but also educates a new group of
people about what we do and brings them into our site for other
possibilities such as volunteering, sharing skills and ideas with
our participants, etc.
FROM ROBERT of DC: Rock on Devra
FROM LINDA, CCSC : i like Kitchen Corp. too. i am going to a
board mtg for the restaurant assoc next week and we have a wide
range of groups from the entire hospitality industry, conventions,
chefs, hotel/motel etc. i would like to have some strong ideas to
put out for discussion to the various groups,
FROM ROBERT of DC: The Kitchen Corp would not be just us, but
everyone who comes in and contributes, as Devra suggests.
FROM LEN : Linda, you are always working smart.
FROM ROBERT of DC: We could also hook up with the NRA and
others and take this even higher, so that we actually organize and
plan ahead...kinda of like the national guard does. In case of
emergency, call this number and COOK.
FROM KIM PRENDERGAST: Hi Folks - just joined in and trying to
get caught up on the discussion. I like the Kitchen Corp idea - an
opportunity to bring in graduates as well as other laid off workers
in and give them a chance to contribute to solutions.
FROM DEVRA@HAFP:: I like the Kitchen Corps idea - reminds of
my Peace Corps days....We could also tap into the resources of our
alumni... if they aren't working, have them assist us with outreach
to other laid-off workers...and I really like the idea of making
this a network that can respond to emergency needs.
Submitted by
neda on 04/08/2002
FROM LINDA, CCSC : I think that we need to crystilize the
Kitchen Corp concept, the press will love reporting on a national
effort the national emergency number will be what we can use to
build the safety net
FROM ROBERT of DC: Damn Kim, you're a quick study, that's
exactly what we're proposing.
FROM LEN : The National Restaurant Assoc has a state
affiliate in each state, and will give us access to our local
hospitality owners. This saves alot of leg-work.
FROM KIM PRENDERGAST: Is anyone doing additional outreach
within their programs - working with laid off workers to help them
get hooked up with the services they're newly entitled for, like
Food Stamps, making sure they're getting unemployment, health ins.,
etc? Just another aspect that might be good to bring in.
FROM LEN : Thanks Devra. That association with corps was
actually in my lifetime, and a litlle more suited.
FROM ROBERT of DC: We've got all the numbers, so any grad
that comes back is put in the right place, right away. Then we tell
em to come back and help, as we'Ve been talking about. Does everyone
have local info on unemployment...it's easy to find, and I
(unfortunately) guarentee you'll need it for recent grads.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : we are really making a strong effort to
unite our alumni and build strength. we are inviting them to come in
and teach a class. they do call us when they get laid-off
FROM ROBERT of DC: Kim and I will be in Savannah, how about
if we put together a plan / press thing and circulate it. As Linda
said, the press will love this, and...truth be told, we all need
press to keep relevent and funded. JaneKCCK just entered this
room...
FROM LEN : The press has more of an open minded news cycle
right now for our work than I have ever seen. I think that it will
be important to highlight what we are doing, let the press tell the
public and FUNDERS about it, and then we will need to stay focused
and not let the PR drive what we are doing. Yep, I can see on the
screen that someone is already writing about press.
FROM LEN :
FROM DEVRA@HAFP:: We're doing a lot of the same stuff Robert
mentioned - hooking people into the resources available and we
always have alumni who aren't working come in and help us out in the
kitchen. We also happen to be working on building our
post-employment services including having alumni meetings to share
ideas and resources and starting a mentoring program - stuff that
should be quite useful for both alumni and current participants.
FROM KIM PRENDERGAST: Sounds good Robert.
Submitted by
neda on 04/08/2002
FROM ROBERT of DC: I'm groovin on the Kitchen Corp think. I
can see this uniting the movement in a big way, enabling anyone who
comes in to any kitchen to be part of the larger effort. Can't you
see the t-shirts. "I'm a member of the Kitchen Corp."
FROM LEN : Robert and Kim, please call me from Savannah
FROM NEDA@DCCK: i think the Kitchen corps is something people
can rally behind... will give workers and volunteers such a sense of
pride, especially as linda mentioned, when it comes to "first
response" issues. and the press will love that stuff.
FROM ROBERT of DC: Why don't you join us Len...heck, why
don't you all join us. We'll eat crawfish and talk Kitchen Corp
FROM LEN : The Kitchen Corps - first response team - part of
the solution.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : when you think about it we are somewhat at
an advantage as far as non-profits go because we do food and there
is never any question that we can help, what are the details on
Savannah?
FROM DEVRA@HAFP:: HAFP is a member of a local organization
called SF-CARD - Collaborative Agencies Responding to disaster...I
can see the Kitchen Corps becoming a national response with a
particular focus on food and employment.
FROM JANE KCCK: This sounds really exciting. Sorry I missed
the first part.
FROM LEN : The Kitchen Corp. - "using food as a tool to
REBUILD communities"
FROM NEDA@DCCK: ahhh yeah, you go len!
FROM ROBERT of DC: Damn Len...you're on a roll.
FROM DEVRA@HAFP:: I like!
FROM LEN : OK. Where do we go from here ? When is the
Savannah gig ?
FROM JANE KCCK: Using food and people to rebuild communities
FROM LEN : Welcome Jane.
FROM ROBERT of DC: so...Kim and I will take a stab at an
angle, circulate it to the group and get your feedback. In the
meantime, let's all get to work fleshing out local angles using this
as our common thrad.
FROM ROBERT of DC: thread
FROM LINDA, CCSC : As we start to see the hour come to a
close, let's make plans to make it happen! Using food and citizens
to rebuild, unite and empower communities
FROM LEN : Robert, in some environs we say "thrad"
FROM JANE KCCK: WOW you should bein marketing!!
FROM LEN : Linda's got it. unite, rebuild, empower. You go.
FROM LINDA, CCSC : if the terrorists didn't know before, they
now know that they achieved just the opposite of what they wanted,
we are stronger now that ever
FROM LINDA, CCSC : thanks so much everyone, I'm am really
fired up now.
FROM ROBERT of DC: Kitchen Corp -- Kickin Bin Laden's Booty
FROM KIM PRENDERGAST: That's what should go on the t-shirt,
Robert
FROM LEN : YEahhhhhh, baby.
FROM DEVRA@HAFP:: This all sounds like a great start - I look
forward to seeing Robert and Kim's "stab" and think there's some
great wording for marketing - Using Food and Community to Unite,
Rebuild and Empower (aned kick some booty!)
FROM LINDA, CCSC : Hey, and I have some ideas for the logo
which can't be printed here
FROM LEN : What would I do without you all !!
FROM ROBERT of DC: Over and OUT !!!
FROM KIM PRENDERGAST: It is a great start - good ideas on
this chat! Robert and I will be in Savannah tomorrow afternoon and
Wednesday, so you'll hear from us soon. Thanks for hosting, Len!
FROM LEN : Roger that.
FROM JANE KCCK: What would any of us do if we weren't
united?!!
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